300 km/h rider identified

[Gerhard]

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120419/bc_motorcycle_extreme_speeding_video_seized_120419/20120419?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

I find it interesting that the police is quick to find charges from this video evidence but had so much trouble finding charges for the thugs that beat Adam Nobody with video evidence that identified the individuals that assaulted Nobody so clearly.

Gerhard

[Malks]

Well they have identified the bike. They are still looking to the public for assistance in a positive ID of the rider. So far all they have are screen shots of his arms /hands and that might not be enough to gain a conviction. Even if they get a conviction they better include jail time because, based on his past record he doesn't really give a damn about traffic laws, insurance, or even having a licence.

On a side note, did a 2006 R1 really cost $15,000.00 new? I did not think they were over 10K back then; it certainly must be worth much less now.

[Black Lightning]

They have found the individual. Apparently he was an unlicensed uninsured person riding a motorcycle registered to his mother. I haven't heard whether or not it was his bike that his mother had signed for or he had merely "borrowed" his mother's motorcycle. Either way, he should definitely go to his room with no supper.

Still, looking back to the distant mists of time when I was young I most likely would have tried something similar. I was just lucky that motorcycles were not that fast when I was 25 years old. My /5 BMW had about 50 horsepower on a good day and I know exactly how fast it would go. While what was shown in the footage was not the actions of a person thinking rationally and I am most certainly not condoning his choice of venues for his hi jinx I can totally understand where he was coming from.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/04/19/bc-motorcycle-video-victoria.html

[Gerhard]

I agree this guy deserves a ticket or whatever is coming to him, the risks he took any reasonable person would conclude endangered everyone on that stretch of road that day. What I was questioning was there ability to charge someone that quickly when it was so painfully slow to identify fellow officers that were definitely involved in misconduct if not criminal activity. Once identified there were all kinds of excuses why charges could not be laid. To me that kind of conduct just undermines the respect regular citizens have for the police. It seems to be a systemic problem as witnessed by the events in the Ottawa police lockup, RCMP at the Vancouver airport among others. What I find disturbing is not that individuals involved want to hide or minimize their actions but that it seems to go right up the chain of command. I think a reasonable conclusion drawn from this is that there is one level of accountability for you and I and another more tolerant and forgiving for those in the law enforcement business.

Gerhard

[Black Lightning]

Riding a motorcycle has been considered an antisocial activity ever since the first motor was attached to the first bicycle. From my own experience there are many things that have happened because I was riding a motorcycle. I have been pulled over while doing the speed limit when cars all around me were whizzing by at considerably more so the man could do a "license check". For some reason that was more important to him than catching speeders. I have been pulled over on the Upper Levels highway and had two West Van "policemen" go over my completely stock BMW with a tape measure. Their real purpose was to make sure I missed the ferry I was trying to catch. I know this because, after half an hour or so, one said to the other, "the ferry is leaving now, let him go".

Life ain't fair. It's too bad but that's the way it is. The chap in the video was basically rubbing the police's nose in whatever he was into, of course the man is going to go after him. Police are people too, with all the baggage that entails.

[Smiley]

Black Lightning "While what was shown in the footage was not the actions of a person thinking rationally and I am most certainly not condoning his choice of venues for his hi jinx I can totally understand where he was coming from."

Exactly. Nobody got hurt, no animals were injured etc. etc. I did many foolish things at that age. I still do, but the actions are much mellowed these days.

[Twinsport]

I have to say Im kind of disappointed in reading about this media vilification of motorcyclists on here. From the history of this guy Ive read he never has been accepted into the sportbike community starting with dealerships that didnt want to sell him a Busa for his first bike. he has had the last laugh on all of us in his infamy. Lets get him off the radar quick so we can try and show the public that we are all not like him. ENOUGH...

[Gerhard]

. Lets get him off the radar quick so we can try and show the public that we are all not like him. ENOUGH...

I believe we are more like him than we like to admit, if we were rational people we would be driving a Honda Fit, Ford Escort or any of the many small cars that are more practical and use less fuel than most of the bikes we choose. There is a certain risk involved in riding a bike even if all speed limits and other traffic laws are obeyed and that is one of the pleasures we get from riding. Now this guy was suicidal and an extreme example of poor judgement but I would think that most of us have more in common with him than the couch potato next door.

Gerhard

[Black Lightning]

...if we were rational people we would be driving a Honda Fit, Ford Escort or any of the many small cars that are more practical and use less fuel than most of the bikes we choose.Gerhard

I dunno about practical. Try carrying 5 sheets of OSB and 45 2X6s in a Honda Fit. Or a half cord of firewood. Of course this is also a challenge on a motorcycle.

[FROSTIE]

I agree this guy deserves a ticket or whatever is coming to him, the risks he took any reasonable person would conclude endangered everyone on that stretch of road that day. What I was questioning was there ability to charge someone that quickly when it was so painfully slow to identify fellow officers that were definitely involved in misconduct if not criminal activity. Once identified there were all kinds of excuses why charges could not be laid. To me that kind of conduct just undermines the respect regular citizens have for the police. It seems to be a systemic problem as witnessed by the events in the Ottawa police lockup, RCMP at the Vancouver airport among others. What I find disturbing is not that individuals involved want to hide or minimize their actions but that it seems to go right up the chain of command. I think a reasonable conclusion drawn from this is that there is one level of accountability for you and I and another more tolerant and forgiving for those in the law enforcement business.

Gerhard

I think there are two sets of rules one for the police and one for the rest of us. I know a few police officers and they drink and drive and have no respect for the traffic laws but are happy to had out tickets to generate money for the goveremant. That said if they can identify the rider he should be punished according to the law.

[Uwe W.]

I think there are two sets of rules one for the police and one for the rest of us.

I was driving in the right lane of a three lane major highway last week and noticed a motorcycle flying in the left lane. I was driving around 115 km/h and he was gaining on me so fast that he had to have been doing at least 160 km/h. When the motorcycle passed me I realised it was a provincial police officer on a Harley. No lights, no sirens, and no one in front of him that he could have been chasing.

If I were to do the same thing, I'd lose my licence, my bike would be impounded and I'd be facing a fine in the thousands of dollars. Of course he will have had an "official business" excuse, but the smile of contentment on his face suggested he was just having fun riding fast.

It's often a 'do as I say, not as I do' situation when it comes to policing, but then again, shouldn't every job come with its perks?

[Black Lightning]

That said if they can identify the rider he should be punished according to the law.

Word on the street is that they can't bust him becasue they can't "prove" it was him riding, even though he's defended himself on the Youtube thread thing. Instead they have gone after his mother as the registered owner of the motorcycle. She is facing heavy fines and some penalties of some sort or other.

I realize that yer mother should know you better than anyone and so this lady should have some sort of grip on the yahoo she's dealing with but still, this seems a bit harsh if it's true. Going after the mother just because she is the registered owner seems a bit vindictive to me.

[Black Lightning]

Headline from the CBC website today (July 12)

Saanich, B.C., police lay charge in 300 km/h motorcycle video

Apparently they are going to charge the young "gentleman" if they can find him. He has dissappeared.